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JUDY COLLINS: an Intense Look at and
Exclusive Interview with Empire:ZINE

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Your new 2-disc anthology Judy Collins-Forever is simply wonderful. Tell me, how does it feel now having "Forever" out for the world to hear, and what was the over-all experience like, gathering all those great songs together and recording new ones?

Collins: I am thrilled to have been able to put together this new album. I actually put all the songs on it that I love. I listened to everything I had recorded in the twenty-four years with Elektra, and then just took all the ones I am mad about. I re-recorded "Chelsea Morning," because I have never been wild about the original and I felt people should hear the way it sounds today. I wrote a song with Jesse Valenzuela called "Nothing Lasts Forever," great to collaborate with him. He is a doll, you know he was with the Gin Blossoms; and I wrote a song called walls with my husband, Louis Nelson, who designed the new Korean Veteran's Memorial Wall on the Mall in Washington D.C. Perhaps my favorite is the new song I wrote called the "Fallow Way." I feel great about this new collection!!!

Saying you have an incredible voice is such an understatement. Your good friend Richard Farina put it this way... "If amethysts could sing, they would sound like Judy Collins." It has also been said that your voice is the voice of the century. How does this make you feel and how do you stay in such great shape?

Collins: As far as the singing is concerned, I feel so very grateful to have the voice God gave me. It takes a lot of rest and training to sing, and I was lucky that I found a great teacher when I first moved to New York. His name was Max Margulis and he died last year, sadly. But he is the reason I am singing so well today, some say better than ever. I am just glad that I can take the music to the people who want to hear it. I love my audiences. I am deeply indebted to them for giving me the chance to sing my concerts, make records, and do what I love. Whatever people call it, it is great to have a voice!

At what moment in your life were you aware that you had a beautiful voice-beyond the ordinary?

Collins: I always sang when I was little and my father, who was a great influence on me, also had a wonderful voice. He and my mother really encouraged me to sing and play the piano. They were always very supportive.

In those early days of performing in coffee shops and small venues of Denver, Chicago, and New York, did you have any idea of all the success you would one day enjoy?

Collins: I sang in the coffee houses of the country in the early 60's with no idea of "success" in terms of records or television. I just thought I was a storyteller. I didn't even think of myself as a singer-listen to "Maid of Constant Sorrow," and you'll know why! I had this deep, bassy voice. But I had incredible passion for the music I was singing. That was what drove me.

One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard is the first song you ever wrote, "Since You've Asked". You were 27 years old at the time, far into your career as a successful recording artist. Why did it take so long to find your voice as a writer and how did "Since You've Asked" change your life?

Collins: "Since You've Asked" came out of the blue, and I had never thought I needed to write songs, never felt the urge until it happened. Then I knew I had to write songs. I knew "Since You've Asked" was a good song, but I didn't realize that people were going to sing it at their weddings and record it. That was a wonderful surprise. I still think it is one of my best songs. It made me greedy for more…it drove me to write, and keep on writing, and not become discouraged when the songs didn't come as fast as I would have liked.

What would you say to other musicians, lyricists, and writers about over- coming the fears of the creative process and the fears of exposing such personal emotion for others to see?

Collins: I don't think you get to good writing unless you expose yourself and your feelings. Deep songs don't come from the surface; they come from the deep down. The poetry and the songs that you are suppose to write, I believe are in your heart. You just have to open up your heart and not be afraid to get them out.

You've experienced some very tragic and painful moments in your life and have conquered major personal battles. How has over-coming tragedy and pain made you a better person as well as a better artists?

Collins: It is true that I have had heartache and tragedy in my life. These are things none of us avoids. Suffering is the price of being alive…and it is music and singing and art that has helped me live through some of the most difficult things that have happened to me.

Do you have a name for inspiration- the peace of mind one feels when inspired?

Collins: I have inspiration and feelings of being alive most every day I live. I call them part of the joy of living, and they are there for all of us.

What about the times when nothing comes, when there is silence and creativity seems stifled?

Collins: When inspiration does not come, I go for a walk, go to the movie, talk to a friend, let go… The muse is bound to return again, especially if I turn my back!

What do you receive from writing that you cannot get from performing?

Collins: Performing and writing are indeed different. Writing is usually solitary, unless you are with a collaborator. Singing is usually public, unless you are practicing. Each has its special gift. Both are necessary. You cannot get the same things from writing and performing, at least I cannot. I need both.

I love your new song, the "Fallow Way," included in Forever. How did it come about and describe how you write a new song-what process works best for you?

Collins: I wrote the "Fallow Way" as a poem. I was staring out the window one day at the Connecticut countryside, the lake frozen, the birds walking on the ice, air clear and frosty. I thought about how precious are times when the farmer lets the field lie fallow, when the time comes for reflection and rest, for hibernation. I wrote the poem and later, set it to music. It just sort of popped out, like a winter song.

Tell me about the new song on Forever called "Walls" (We Are Not Forgotten.) What are your thoughts on war and peace?

Collins: My husband, Louis Nelson, was designing the Korean Veteran's Memorial Wall and
began writing poetry about walls. The words inspired me and I asked him for a copy of
the poem, and, after re-arranging things a bit, Walls came out. It is our collaboration.
The song is about rebirth, as are most of my songs. Out of all conflict, rebirth and
rejuvenation come. War is a terrible thing, and as a pacifist, I don't believe it is the way.
But if there is conflict, as there is, I only see a positive outcome as possible in rebirth and
transcendence.

Of all the songs you have written, which one best describes your fullest potential as a
writer?

Collins: I may like the Blizzard best, of all the songs I have written. It, too, is about rebirth and transcendence.

Your lyrics are so animated and vivid, so full of passion and grace. Where do they come from?

Collins: I don't know where my songs come from... If I knew, I'd know too much, more than we are allowed on this plane.

Any chance there will be a sequel to your autobiography Trust Your Heart?

Collins: My book Trust Your Heart, which is the story of my life, will be followed in September of this year by Singing Lessons, a memoir of love, loss, hope, and healing, which talks about the death of my son and the hope that has been the aftermath of the healing from that tragedy.

In, Trust Your Heart, you mention of your need to write in your journal. Would you recommend other writers do the same?

Collins: I write journals and would recommend journal writing to anyone who wishes to pursue a writing career. You learn a lot. You also remember a lot… and memory is important.

Did you find writing your first novel, Shameless, easy or hard for you?

Collins: Writing Shameless, or anything, is terribly hard but, alas for me, because I am addicted, a heck of a lot of fun. I often am sorry I ever started writing prose, because it is so hard. But I can't stop.

Why do you speak out politically and for the causes you've supported for so long now such as the Civil Rights movement in the 60's, non-violence, Women's Rights and UNICEF?

Collins: I was raised to speak out about politics and the world around me. I would do it whether I was in the public or not. It is the way I was taught. The American way.

What do you think of the success of so many female artists of today?

Collins: I am glad so many women singers are being heard in music today. It is healthy for music… healthy because it means a lot of men are listening!

What do you think are the 3 most important attributes a writer must posses to be successful?

Collins: Persistence, persistence, persistence… and some talent.

Do you ever think there will be another great "season of songs" like in the 60's with writers such as Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, yourself, and others?

Collins: Music is always occurring. The season of songs you speak of is all around us, it isJudy Collins just a matter of marketing, attention, and many other factors, that determines whether people will hear these songs or not. It is perhaps more difficult today to get to your audience. But you just have to keep trucking!

You've got a great web page; you keep all your fans up to date on the latest in your life and career.

Collins: I am glad you like my web page. I think that new communications are wonderful and I am delighted to be a part of the Internet generation.

What does the future hold for you Judy, what project do you want to undertake next?

Collins: I am always thinking about new music, new records, new books, and new songs. I just wrote a new song about New York for my friend Jacques D'Amboise, who runs the National Dance Institute. I write a song for the dancers every year or so. There is no end to the wonderful things I have planned to sing and to write!!!

Ask yourself one question you've always wanted to be asked in an interview...and give your answer.

Collins: Who does your hair??
Collins: Agnes and me.

Any parting thoughts to all the striving writers and eternal dreamers out there reading?

Collins: I think people who are creative are the luckiest people on earth. I know that there are no shortcuts, but you must keep your faith in something Greater than You, and keep doing what you love. Do what you love, and you will find the way to get it out to the world. Thanks for taking the time to do this interview with me. God bless you all, and hope you will keep listening.

Thank you Judy, from the bottom of my heart, for sharing your time with me. You are an eternal source of inspiration and I thank you for all the happiness you have brought to me and millions of others through your timeless music and words. You are welcome here at Empire:ZINE anytime.

Thanks to Katherine DePaul at Rocky Mountain Productions for helping to make this all possible. Images and photographs from Elektra Records, Judy Collins Official Website. Some photographs by Franceso Scavullo.
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